Radical Metabolism

August 27, 2018

Join us as New York Times bestselling author Ann Louise Gittleman joins us to discuss her new book, Radical Metabolism. This book is truly a health recovery book that addresses how to support your basic metabolism and your health. Many of us have a slowed metabolism and aren't feeling our best, and Ann Louise Gittleman will show us why our metabolism has slowed and what we can do about it.

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DAR: Welcome to Dishing Up Nutrition. I’m Darlene Kvist, certified nutrition specialist. , I've been practicing the science of nutrition, well sometimes I call it the art of nutrition, for like 35 years and I have to admit that I'm still learning how we can use nutrition to feel better and improve our health. We have a wonderful, exciting show planned for you today because we have the great pleasure of having New York Times bestselling author, Ann Louise Gittleman joining us by phone. , I know our long time listeners love to listen to Ann Louise as she talks nutrition. They tell me that every time out there working with people. Also joining us this morning, you just heard her voice, licensed nutritionist, Marcie. Marcie not only has a wealth of knowledge, but she's going to help me keep this program on task today. So, Marcie, do a formal introduction of Ann Louise, please.

MARCIE: Well, it would be my pleasure, Dar. So many of our listeners know that Dar and Louise have known each other, and I would even say they've been friends for about 30 years. Dar thinks of Ann Louise as a her amazing mentor. For those of you who have not yet had the privilege of listening to Ann Louise speak on our show Dishing Up Nutrition, you may be wondering, well, who is Ann Louise Gittleman. Well, let me tell you, because first of all, she's a New York Times bestselling author of over 30 nutrition books. Her first book was Beyond Pritikin. That was published over 30 years ago and it stressed the importance of eating natural, non-processed fats, which is still such a great message that we are still trying to get through to people today. Ann Louise has always been well ahead of her time, blazing trails in the field of nutrition to help people understand how nutrition can help each of us feel better. And really can. And she has that kind of passion for nutrition, just like Dar. That's why they're such good friends.

DAR: So, Ann Louise has written a new book called Radical Metabolism and, this book is so much more than just a weight loss book. It's truly a health recovery book that shows you how to support your basic metabolism and your health. Ann Louise understands and addresses the fact that many of us have a slowed down metabolism and honestly not feeling as well as we used to. And she has some radical new information about why our metabolism has slowed and what we can do about it. That's the fun part. So, good morning Ann Louise. We love having you on our show. It's great to have you join us again.

ANN LOUISE: Well, good morning ladies, and it's wonderful to Dish Up Nutrition with some of my favorite nutritionists.

DAR:  I know we've got listeners out there just tuned in, ready to listen to you. So would you start a discussion by the role that fats have in maintaining our metabolism. The next question I'd like you to kind of look at it is how fats affect the cell membrane. And people don't really know this at all. So, let's talk about radical rule number one that's in your book and talking about metabolism.

ANN LOUISE: Yes. Well, that radical rule number one lady's is revamp your fats. And that’s because I was out to bust the myth that fat makes us fat because you see your body was actually made to run on fat, not sugar, and that is quite radical in this day and time.

DAR:  It's still radical.

ANN LOUISE:  It is radical, but when you think about it, your brain is about 80 percent fat and so many of our tissues and cell membrane structures are composed of fat, so in order to feed those cell membranes, you need the right kinds of fat to help reverse hormone resistance, insulin resistance, thyroid issues, as well as hormonal issues, and so there's so much to be said about the right kind of fat. Not only will the right kind of fat reduce chronic inflammation and weight gain, but it can also supercharge your metabolism. This particular bat that I write about, which is none other than the good Omega-6’s.

MARCIE: Finally, someone's bringing this to everyone.

DAR: So yeah. Ann Louise, just expound on that a little bit more about what is an Omega-6. And I know we've got listeners out there that have said, oh no, I'm not supposed to be eating Omega-6. I'm only supposed to be eating Omega-3’s. Let's just go ahead and talk about all that if you're up to it this morning.

ANN LOUISE:  Well, yes indeed. I think we've been fed some big fat lies and one of them is that you only need the good Omega-3’s and not the Omega-6’s and other essential fatty acid and that's because so many Omega-6’s are damaged and those are not good for you.

DAR: What does that mean when you say you’ve been damaged?

ANN LOUISE:  They've been overheated number one. They're loaded with chemicals like hexane number two. They're full of GMOs number three and those are the most prevalent commercial oils that are out in the market these days. And those would be your corn oil, your soybean oil and most sunflower seed oils.

DAR: Almost all the food that's out in the marketplace these days.

ANN LOUISE: But that's not the full picture and that's why I needed to write the book because you can actually supercharge your metabolism with Omega-3’s and it is the Omega that is necessary to repair the cell membrane. It's what comprises membrane medicine, which is a new term that I'd like everybody to remember. Membrane medicine. And so when you think of the Omega-6’s, what I'm thinking of is hemp seed oil, which is now all over the country, the highest in Omega-6’s. Very good for your skin so that when you lose the weight on radical metabolism, your skin won't sag, it won't bag, it won't drag. You'll have taut, toned and tight skin. So that is very important because when so many people lose weight, their skin starts to do a downward cycle and we don't want that to happen. We want people to look as good on the outside is they're going to feel on the inside.

DAR: So, what other kinds of oils besides hemp oil, I mean, where do you get some of these wonderful fats that people should be eating?

ANN LOUISE: You get them from nuts. Walnuts are higher in Omega-6 than Omega-3. We don’t know that. That's been misrepresented in nutritional science. So almost all of your nuts, the hemp seed oil, as I mentioned, some of your ghee, grass fed butter is another source. Sesame oil, which has a very high smoke point. Toasted sesame oil is totally delicious and even an oil called Siberian pine nut oil can absolutely repair and regenerate your entire digestive track from your mouth to the other end. It's absolutely magical. It's a little pricey, but I have to tell you that just taking one teaspoon three times a day before meals will repair a damaged esophagus, an eroded GI tract, problems with ulcers and gerd. It's very healing for the mucosal membranes and that's because it has an essential fatty acid that's similar to the Omega-6’s that we're talking about. So there's a lot to be said for Omega-6. Not all Omega-6’s are created equal and that’s what I write about in radical rule number one.

MARCIE: That's awesome. We have to take our first break and so we'll be right back with you. You are listening to Dishing Up Nutrition this morning. Our very special guest nutritionist and bestselling author and Louise Gittleman is sharing her findings about how to support a healthy metabolism from her soon to be released book, Radical Metabolism.


DAR: Well, welcome back to Dishing Up Nutrition. We want to get back with our guest, Ann Louise Gittleman because she has such a wealth of information.

MARCIE: Yes we do. When we left for break, we were talking about that pine nut oil that you said is so wonderful for gut health. You want to expound on that? Just a bit more for us so people can understand it.

ANN LOUISE: And it tastes absolutely delicious and just a little bit goes a long way. We've seen individuals that have healed all kinds of esophageal irritation, problems with Gerd, regurgitation, GI distress, leaky gut syndrome, you name it. This seems to be a panacea for many problems that we have not yet had a resolution for. So I'm delighted to talk about that. And one of the reasons that it's so healing is that the pinolenic acid it contains is similar to the gamma linolenic acid, which is the key essential fatty acid in the Omega-6’s. So it's a winner. We use that in some of our recipes, but more importantly, it's a therapy for anything in the Gi tract that may be ailing you.

DAR:  Probably at least half of our clients, if not more like 75 or 80 percent of our clients have intestinal issues. Heartburn. All those things that you just mentioned. And um, yeah,

ANN LOUISE:  So this is a biggie and it's very overlooked and it's a good Omega-6. So there are lots of those Omega-6’s out there. Hemp seed oil is outstanding as well, and that's particularly good for promoting brown fat, which is the kind of that we want that keeps us thin. And it's also good for that skin. The sagging, bagging, and dragging. It really tightens and tones the skin. And that's such a biggie. One of the things that we noticed during our Beta group testing of radical metabolism that everyone got compliments within one week on their complexion.

DAR: Wow. That's, that's a motivator. It's interesting what motivates people to change their nutrition, isn’t it? So, where should we go with our discussion this morning? I think we should talk a little bit more about the balance of Omega-3’s and Omega-6’s and maybe get rid of some of the myths that's out there.

ANN LOUISE:  Yeah, well, what I found in the research, which is why this book is called Radical Metabolism, is that there is a real misconception. The conception is that all Omega-3’s are anti-inflammatory and all Omega-6’s are pro-inflammatory and that's not correct. There are Omega-6’s that are indeed pro inflammatory, like the ones that are overheated, overexposed to air and chemicals, and we spoke about those earlier. That's your corn oil, your soybean oil, maybe your sunflower seed oil that are used in commercial foods, but if those oils are unheated and unaltered, cold pressed, then they're very anti-inflammatory, so we bring back the anti-inflammatory Omega-6’s which comprise the cell membrane structure and that strengthens the cell membrane, so it's protected against assaults from bacteria, virus, chemicals, and parasites, so it's essential for cellular health.

DAR: So talk a little bit more about that cell membrane because I had a discussion yesterday a little bit with some people and I suddenly realized that they don't really understand what we're talking about when we talk about that cell membrane and what makes up that cell membrane, and you do such a great job of talking about that.

ANN LOUISE: Well, it's pretty simple Dar and we don't talk about it, but you begin to become healthy on a cellular level. It goes right down to the cell, quite honestly. And the cell is composed of fats. The structure is fats and if it's not composed of the right fats, it becomes very rigid. You want it to become very smooth and very versatile, so to speak, and that's where Omega-6 comes into play. And with a very strong, versatile, easily bendable, so to speak, cell membrane, you're then allowed to get the right nutrients in and toxins out. So, the basic message here for membrane medicine is that Omega-6’s are not all created equal and our cell membranes, they actually prefer the Omega-6’s over the Omega-3’s. They practically use Omega 6 almost exclusively.

DAR: One of the things that you taught me many, many years ago is that if people have inflammation in their lungs, like asthma or other things like that, that it is actually the activated Omega-6’s that helps with that inflammation.

ANN LOUISE: Yeah, because it's so anti-inflammatory and that’s where those pre-formed Omega-6’s that are on the market are so helpful. That's where your evening primrose oil, your borage oil, your black currant seed oil come in handy, but now we have other sources of Omega-6’s in the food supply. So you can integrate them right into the diet in the salad dressing or the drizzle, so to speak. That's where your hemp seed oil and your sesame oil for cooking, even your ghee come in handy.

DAR:  Another thing that I guess a lot of clients would wonder. Okay. Where does coconut oil fit into this mixture?

ANN LOUISE: Yeah, well coconut oil is a healthy oil, quite frankly. There’s been some talk these days with somebody that came out with the concept that coconut oil is pure poison, which is purely ridiculous.

DAR: Thank you.

ANN LOUISE: Quite frankly, it has a place. It's a very stable oil for cooking. So, because of that stability, it really holds it value through high heat. So that's very important. And it's also an anti-inflammatory substance. It's very good to protect against fungus and bacteria and parasites. Very good to be used topically as well as internally, but it does not include, and this is the key here, which is why I talk about radical fats in my book and revamping your fats. It's not a source of essential fatty acids, so exclusively it will not provide the building blocks and critical healing materials you need for your gut, your brain, your joints, your heart, your nails, your skin, your hair.

DAR: Those are Omega-6’s and even more of the activated Omega-6’s like you just talked about. Let's go over those, what I call activated Omega-6’s. Let's go over those again a little bit more so people can really understand what we're talking about.

ANN LOUISE: Well they’re pre-formed and you can get them in a pill so that if you don't take any of these oils that I suggest in the book and you can't find hemp seed oil for whatever reason or don't like sesame seed oil or aren't going to cook with ghee, then you can use a pre-formed Omega-6 which comes as a botanical in a soft gel. So that's where your evening primrose oil comes in handy. Very good for hormonal health. Black currant seed oil is good for the health of your joints. Or even borage oil, which is specifically good to be used topically for the skin. And these come very easily available in this day and age. I've written about them for decades. The only theme which is consistent in all of my books is the good fats and I've talked about Omega-6’s before anybody else mentioned them because there was such misconception about their therapeutic value, but they are considered a source also of linoleic acid, which is very deficient in the American diet. Years ago in the 60’s, linoleic acid was considered a vitamin. We called it vitamin F.

DAR: I love listening to you, but I know we have to go on break.


DAR: Welcome back to Dishing Up Nutrition. Last week we talked about the importance of good fats for brain health and eye health. This week we're talking about good fats that support metabolism, so again, last week we shared information about an essential fatty acid called DHA  and that's the main fat we have in our brain. This week we're sharing information about the essential fatty acid called GLA, which supports metabolism. So that's kind of what we want to get into is how do we use these essential fats to support our metabolism? Because that's what people want to know. How do I help my metabolism?

ANN LOUISE:  Well, you can maximize it by using a couple of things. You use hemp seed oil in your salad dressings. You use sesame seed oil. These are all sources of the Omega-6’s. You can use sesame oil when you're doing stir fries or a little ghee with high heat cooking. As a matter of fact, the higher the heat, the better the ghee because it does not deteriorate under a lot of heat. And then you take a look at GLA and we consider it a rockstar when it comes to losing weight. So if you decided to do nothing else but just to add some GLA to your diet, you might be able to lose five pounds without lifting a finger and that's because it enhances a particular kind of fat, which I mentioned previously and I talk about in the book called Brown fat, which is considered the latest obesity cure. So Brown fat is loaded with these Mitochondria, these little cellular engines that help to burn off energy when you have the right kind of fat. Fat acts as the catalyst to burn more energy or calories. So it's really quite simple. Without the GLA or the right fats in the diet, we become fatter. And even with all the Omega-3’s, people are still becoming fat. When we do blood testing, we see that the most efficient Omega is Omega-6. So that's where your GLA and evening primrose oil comes into play. Your borage, your black currant seed oil and using Omega-6’s in the ratio of four to one in favor of Omega-6 to Omega-3.

DAR: So, Ann Louise, you would take four GLAs and one Omega-3’s if you're doing it in a soft gel. Is that right?

ANN LOUISE: Well, that's basically what you would do because you need that much more of the Omega-6 for the cellular membrane. The membrane medicine we spoke about for the mitochondria, for the Brown fat. Yes, indeed. That's what you would do and you consider that the basic ruling ratio in your diet as well.

DAR: Perfect. That gives people a great way to get your metabolism going.

ANN LOUISE: And we all need to do that in this day and age because there's so many environmental assaults that are getting at us every single day slowing us down.

DAR:  I mean just all the information that's been out about RoundUp tells us something. Yes, we do need that protection. Our cells need that protection. Definitely.

MARCIE: That's right. So that's such good information about those essential fatty acids. I think a lot of people are probably thinking, “What the heck? I didn't know about any of this. All we ever talk about is the Omega-3’s.” So thank you, Ann Louise. So I think we should move on to radical rule number two, which is restoring your gallbladder. Now this really fascinates me. I think so many people are led to believe that they don't even need their gallbladder.

ANN LOUISE: That's so wrong. There are cases where there's an issue that it's a life and death issue with the gallbladder, but before it gets to that stage, there's so much you can do. As a matter of fact, I called the gallbladder and the promotion of bile or bile support, the new  thyroid cure. So that's a big weight loss discovery. The thyroid cure is actually your gallbladder, believe it or not. And so when you ask how does your gallbladder relate to metabolism? Well, it's because of the secretion of bile and bile is a very important liquid which is actually stored in the gallbladder. It is actually promoted by the liver and it breaks down fat. It carries away toxins. It’s an important detox mechanisms, but when it comes to the connection between the thyroid and the gallbladder, what we've learned is that individuals that have a slowdown in bio promotion or production, like those without a gallbladder or a sluggish metabolism, those individuals with reduced bile flow are seven times more likely to suffer from hypothyroidism. That's quite something. So if you get your gallbladder out, watch out because your metabolism will do a downward turn very quickly.

DAR:  First of all, let's look at keeping your gallbladder because we know we need to keep that if we can. So, talk to people about what we can do to create more bile, good bile for us and how do we keep our gallbladder?

ANN LOUISE:                     We've got to make bile sexy again. Bile is where it’s at.

DAR:So how do we make it sexy?

ANN LOUISE: The problem is that when bile become sludgy, conformed stones that can be very painful, can clog up the gallbladder, and then you're in for gallbladder surgery, which believe it or not, is the most frequently performed abdominal surgery in the country today. And that's why we're seeing such a rise in weight gain because people that have their gallbladder removed and nobody has written about this, but I did in radical metabolism, which is why it's so important for women particularly who are more susceptible to this. If they're women that are over 40 and they're overweight and they're overtired and thinking of getting their gallbladders out or already have a missing gallbladder, they have to get the book. So basically what we talk about in the book is the importance of eliminating certain foods which can be very pro inflammatory, particularly to the gallbladder. We talk about the elevation of blood sugar in terms of making sludgy bile. And we talk about getting rid of the bad fats in processed foods and sugar, which also can clog up the bile and give you remedies to break up the stones. And that's what’s so important. That's what I give you. The supplements, the herbs, the tinctures, the bitters, it's all in the book.

DAR:  The one that you just talked about on blood sugars, that increases sluggish bile,

ANN LOUISE: That's one of the things that can create sluggish bile and then there's another issue too that I think is important because as we age, everyday toxins will build it up in your body and they become trapped in the bile, so the fluid that should be very free flowing instead becomes very sludgy. And that happens, quite frankly, when we have excess estrogen, which is present in everything from contraceptives to food additives. That raises cholesterol levels in the bile, which makes the digestive fluid even more thicker and more prone to becoming congested. And then you've got the stress hormone cortisol which hinders bile production. So, the more stressed we are, sometimes the less bile we have in our body. So it's a configuration of a perfect storm. It’s higher blood sugar levels, it's processed foods, it's more estrogens in the environment, and it's also the food additives out there. They can raise cholesterol, which makes our bile very thick and sludgy and prone to becoming congested.

DAR:  So it is so much more than just weight loss. I mean, when you really look at the total picture that people need nutritional counseling for, it is so much more than just they want to lose weight.

ANN LOUISE: eah, because bile’s impact on the thyroid is a real concern since up to 80 percent of women over 40 are suffering from insufficient or poor quality bile or have already had their poor gallbladders removed. So let's get clear though. Gallbladder is not a throwaway organ. It doesn't belong in the same club as the appendix.

DAR:  So, let’s connect the dots with thyroid and lack of bile. What happens to your thyroid? It stops functioning somehow when you don't have enough bile. So explain that to our listeners.

ANN LOUISE: It’s such a weird connection. It's like this alliance which is so strange and something I stumbled upon, but noticed over the years with my clients, they got their gallbladders removed. They started getting much more overweight within two to three months. Bloated, overweight, and so the the basic thing that we learned  from the research is that the right kind of dietary fats can supply the body with the raw materials that are needed to produce active thyroid hormones, and when that fat is not broken down and it's stored in the cells, instead of being broken down by the bile, then your thyroid doesn't get the building blocks that it needs. You see the right kind of fats have to increase and can increase the production of an enzyme that converts the T4 into the active T3 and T3 is the body's main thyroid hormone, which is very responsible for stoking up those metabolic fires and switching the body into a fat burning mode. So it's all about the fat is being broken down, which triggers a thyroid to then activate the right hormone. And that's the key that's been forgotten in all the research. I mean there have been studies in Finland and Harvard and even Hungary that have showed that connection. It's really a weight loss discovery, so again, I call the gallbladder the new thyroid cure, and if you start supplementing with the missing gallbladder salts or the bile salts or the bitters that you can use. You can use herbal bitters if you're a Vegan or vegetarian. Then you can approximate and you can duplicate what mother nature has so beautifully created.

DAR:  Just think in terms of okay, so somebody is listening, and they say they’ve already had their gallbladder out. What's going on now in their system? So maybe when we come back from break you can explain that a little bit.


DAR: Welcome back to Dishing Up Nutrition. If you love nutrition even half as much as I do, I encourage you to pick up Ann Louise's new book, Radical Metabolism and it's going to be available in your favorite bookstore next Tuesday, August 28. Marcie said it's a must read and it's really filled with life changing information. I would also encourage you to share the podcast of today's show with everyone you know. Three quarters of the population is now struggling with a slow metabolism and other health challenges. Three quarters of the population. This book, Radical Metabolism, may contain the answer you're looking for to restore your health or maybe you could help a friend restore their health. Before we run out of time, I just want to personally thank Ann Louise for being a on our show today, Dishing Up Nutrition. It's always a pleasure to have you on our show. And there are about a million nutrition books on the market today. And I'm pretty sure I've read at least half of them. However,  there isn't one book that I've read that compares to the insights and understanding in your book, Radical Metabolism. I started out in my career being so impressed with Beyond Pritikin. That was 30 years ago, but Radical Metabolism tops all of your nutrition books and tops all the other millions that are out there. I really think this is an amazing book. It has just such a wealth of information, things that other people don't even know and never have even thought about. So let's go back to the gallbladder because people don't talk about the gallbladder.

MARICE:  So, I think when we left off, Dar had posed the question of if you don't have a gallbladder, how can you fix this? What can we do?

ANN LOUISE:  Well, there are a couple of things and we talk about them in great detail in the book. However, what I'd like to say is that you need some sort of replacement. Just the way you have a thyroid replacement. If you have your thyroid out or if you've got issues with your hormones, you get hormone replacement therapy. There's kind of like gallbladder replacement therapy and you do that with certain bile salts, certain herbs that are very helpful. Certain bitters are helpful. The reduction of certain foods that are very pro inflammatory specifically to the bile or the missing bile, the bile ducts. You get all kinds of tips and tricks that you'll find in the book, especially the use of lemon in water in the morning. And what's important, however, to realize is that when you don't have a gallbladder, then you don't have the ability to have timed fat digestion because what the gallbladder does is it secretes bile. It releases the bile to digest fat, and if you don't have that at the right time and it's constantly dripping from your liver into your gut, then you're not going to have proper digestion of fats and those fats don't become metabolized, they become stored on your body rather than broken down in the cells. So that's where the bile salts come in handy. Again, the herbs come in handy. Lemon and water comes in handy. A lot of the herbal drinks that we talk about and supplements that I created for those that want to have the whole realm of lipoatrophic or fat-digesting nutrients.

MARCIE: That’s great. What are some of the bile-producing foods that people could to eat for some that just don't want to do any of the bitters.

ANN LOUISE:   Well, you have bitter foods. That’s the beauty. Grapefruit is a bitter. Coffee is a bitter. The foods that they're already eating can be used just in a different timely fashion, so that's very healthy. Lemon is very healthy. Ginger is very good for that. Thyme is very good for that. There are a ton of foods. Bitter greens, the arugula, the watercress, chocolate. A lot of different foods have bile- producing qualities.

DAR: So, one other thing is there's such a misconception about when you have acid reflux or heartburn that you've got too much acid, so will you talk a little bit more about that because that's another concern that so many of our clients have.

ANN LOUISE: Well, it's a concern because without the proper hydrochloric acid, without the proper secretion of acid in your stomach, you don't trigger the gallbladder to release bile. So that's a biggie. Most of the time it's really a signal of low Hcl, which happens when you're under stress or don't have the nutrients that are the precursors for Hcl. Deficiency of iodine, of salts of zinc. But then there's also a mechanical or structural issue that has to be resolved and that is a hiatal hernia. I find that many people that have acid reflux actually have a raised tummy and that's when the stomach kind of rises in the system and it affects your breathing. It affects your digestion and all of that. Those acids become splashed into the esophagus. And that creates that kind of burn. So you've got to get that dealt with in a structural or mechanical fashion from a physical therapist, a good chiropractor or a massage therapist. So it's twofold. It's not just food, it's posture, it's being in an accident, it's being at your computer too much. There's all kinds of physiological mechanisms that take place. So it isn’t just too much acid. That's nonsense.

DAR: Well then when they usually go in and then they're put on some type of an antacid.

ANN LOUISE:  Yeah. Which affects the absorption of protein, of calcium, of iron. That's not the answer. It can make you much more susceptible to certain kinds of bacterial problems, certain kinds of pneumonia for example. So you have to get to the real source, the underlying source and that's what the book is all about. It's really looking in places that nobody has looked at to find the underlying root cause of many of our conditions that are at the forefront today.

DAR: I agree. So, Marcie, do you have any other questions for Ann Louise this morning?

MARCIE: Well, I was just kind of thinking about back to the bile and the toxic bile that we were speaking about. What if people are like, “Well I eat really good or I feel like I'm eating the Weight & Wellness way. And I feel like I still have this bile or sluggish gallbladder. Can they still be dealing with stuff like that or have toxic bile?


DAR:  And so that might be coming from, like Marcie said, like if somebody comes in and they've been eating really, what we would consider healthy, real food, but they're still having these problems, what's going on underneath all that do you think?

ANN LOUISE:  They may be allergic to eggs.

MARCIE:  Yeah. You noted a couple of those. So eggs, onions, and pork, right? The big three gallbladder problematic foods.

DAR: Interesting, isn't it? So, Ann Louise, do you have any kind of other parting thoughts or questions or things that you want to share this morning?

ANN LOUISE:I would invite all of your listeners to visit us at radicalmetabolism.com to get free gifts, to get a 30% coupon off for coffee and to join our special Facebook group where I can be with them, meet and greet them, and help them nutritionally with issues that they're dealing with that they may not have been able to resolve previously.

DAR:  Well, this book is just a wealth of information. I've already read it twice getting ready for this show and I think as clients come in, I'll go back and reread it some more to get some other ideas and I think the whole idea of helping people look at foods and looking at bitters to assist their digestion and assist their metabolism. I mean you actually quoted something about Hashimoto's thyroid issues in there.

ANN LOUISE:  Yes, there may be a connection with the bile, which is why Hashimoto's is the most common autoimmune illness in the country today. And I think there's a bile gallbladder connection, either sludgy bile, the removal of the gallbladder, or the inability of the bile to trigger the breakdown between T4 and T3.

DAR: And that's epidemic proportions and the whole issue is an epidemic proportion these days.

ANN LOUISE: Yeah. Nobody's looking at all these. The hip bone is connected to the thigh bone. You have to connect the dots. Nothing operates in its own vacuum.

DAR: Yep. And to get people to actually do some of these things takes a lot of education.

ANN LOUISE: It takes support, which is why we provide virtual support and people get that invitation particularly for this kind of program online at theradicalmetabolism.com. And I think it's important when the ideas are so new and kind of revolutionary and radical that there’s a group. There's a group out there that will support you every step of the way. People have been there and done that. We have our Beta testers that are part of the group and they are more than willing to share their experiences with our four day intensive cleanse as part of the program, the 21 day program and how they've been able to monitor their thyroid and their gallbladder and lose weight and feel great in the process.

DAR: That's great. That's perfect because we always say, “If you know better, you do better.”

ANN LOUISE:  But it's support. And the reason people don't do well, Dar. And I know that you know this well, both Dar and Marcie, it's because of the lack of support. Support is the real reason people go off diets or lack thereof of support. So having the support of a virtual community, I think it's very important this day and age.

DAR: So again, we want to thank you for being on the show today. And Ann Louise, would you consider being on again in the future? Maybe in a month or so?

ANN LOUISE:   Of course. It'd be my pleasure. I love you guys,

DAR: Because it's so good to get someone that is just as passionate about nutrition as we are. And I think our listeners also, because we have honestly, we have a lot of listeners.

ANN LOUISE:  No, I know you do. You are held in such great esteem because of the great work that you're doing.

DAR:   And so, we want to keep supplying better and more information all the time for our listeners.

MARCIE: Our goal at Nutritional Weight & Wellness is to help each and every person experienced better health through eating real food. It's a simple yet powerful message. Eating real food is life changing. Thanks for listening and have a great day and thank you Anna Louise. We love you.

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